Archive for September, 2011

It’s all in the details.

Posted in Constitution Trampling, Corrupt Politicians, Innoculations, Media, NWO, Politics, Uncategorized, War on September 3, 2011 by jonnyfrag

Here is a news story from AP that is about NATO troops killing someone we let go back over to Afghanistan. The idea you are supposed to take away from all that is ‘see we need Gitmo cause otherwise they are back to trying to kill us.’  The Pentagon is quoted in the article as saying that about 11% of those released go back ‘on duty’ being a terrorist. Let’s think about that for a second here. We already know that within our own prison system, which is the largest in the world by far, people that are sent up and then released, come out a better, hardened and more connected criminal, especially if they were sent there for small drug charges that carry long sentences. Go in because you had a bag of weed on you, come out a connected gang thug who’s had nothing better to do than lift weights and make connections with nasty people in order to stay alive.

Taken that we know that is how that works, if only 11% of Gitmo people released are ‘coming after us’ then we are doing pretty good. Repeat offenders from our general prison system are much higher than that. Here is what Wiki says about our general prison system:

A 2002 study survey showed that among nearly 275,000 prisoners released in 1994, 67.5% were rearrested within 3 years, and 51.8% were back in prison

So 11% vs 67.5%

We should be happy about that 11% shouldn’t we, since we also know that a stay in Gitmo is ,in a different way perhaps than ‘normal’ prisons, a very difficult place to be. Especially if they think you have some info. It’s a wonder to me that it’s not more like 80%+ immediately wanting to strike back at the country that locked them up, rendered them here secretly and tortured them.

There are only 2 conclusions I can come to about these numbers. Either only about 11% (or less even given the ‘conversion syndrome’) of Gitmo prisoners are/were actually terrorists (this is probably true…the real ones were escorted away and we rounded up sheep herders for the most part) or the Pentagon is lying about their numbers (which, again is also most likely true.)

If they want to scare us, they could have given us a higher number than 11%, compared to our normal prison turnover. It seems like they are going for numbers that show that we still need it and by golly it works much better than normal prison. Would we have a better prison system, with less turnover if everywhere was like Gitmo? That’s not an impossible sounding suggestion, given that they go on morning talk shows and say things like ‘The U.S. can never default, we can just print more money to cover the debt.’ Can’t you hear GOP candidates and their PR people on Fox news saying exactly this? They come on and say things like ‘it’s good that China uses lead in toys, it keeps costs down and that’s good for us.’ *Don’t believe me, look it up.* What I said is no less stupefyingly crazy but plausible.

But the real nugget of info in that entire article describes how they caught the repeat offender in the first place. Here is the  nugget, straight from the article:

He was captured in August 2002 while attending a meeting with U.S. military officials in Asadabad and transferred to the U.S. prison at Guantanamo Bay in October that same year. He was suspected of helping carry out rocket attacks against U.S. troops.

In bold is the key part. If this guy was al-Qaida why and for what purpose would he be ‘meeting’ with US military officials? That very much sounds like during a normal thing that happens, officials meeting with al-Qaida members they decided to double cross and nab him. Taken by itself, there are plenty of innocuous reasons why this happened this way, but the totality of this with other stories we already know, like bin-Laden meeting with CIA officials numerous times, even being treated in U.S. controlled hospitals months before 9/11 (and well after the Cole bombings…i.e. we were already ‘after him.’ NATO using al-Qaida right now against Khadafi. Iraq officials meeting with and getting a green light to invade Kuwait. 9/11 terrorists being trained at Pensacola Naval Air Station. The underpants gnome bomber being escorted onto the plane by officials. The FBI providing the bomb for the 93 WTC attack. It’s cumulative. And pretty definitive. These aren’t wacky theories, they were all reported by the news when they happened. And never retracted, just swept under the rug and never followed up on.

This is what we military folks call SIGINT. Signal Intelligence. You must have everything cleared lest you let enough tiny pieces of info out in various ways or sources that allows the enemy to put together the pieces and figure out more than they should know. They don’t even care anymore and I truly think they do this sort of thing to frighten those that are able to see things for how they are, i.e. those of us that haven’t had critical thinking skill beaten out of us by the education system, the absolute crap that is our food supply, the never ending march of talking media heads and mind numbingly stupid television programs that people, especially younger ones watch, huge personal investments of emotion of sporting events, increasingly mandatory vaccinations laced with toxins… the list goes on and on. They run the game and it’s SO pervasive that there is no escaping it. Even those of us that can see it, most can not drop off the grid and take care of ourselves, almost pioneer style because we are shackled by the system. We can see it, but that doesn’t mean we can escape it.

Stories like this (this one in particular looks like it was drafted by the intelligence community and released to AP…as so many do and are) operate on so many levels. Terrorism bad, Gitmo good. Gitmo works better than regular prisons, maybe we should expand it’s policies. Tiny tidbits that should leap out at people like ‘Why would a terrorist be meeting with our military? Wouldn’t that be dangerous as hell for either side?’ They know a tiny part of the populace that read this will ever pick up on it, and for the most part it’s people that already know what’s ‘really going on.’ So it’s a noserub job. Ha ha, we can outright say this and no one will even care! That’s the scariest part, is that nope…hardly anyone does.